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Wijnand
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Okay I have a measurement that Jaap Actually did for me. Due to crystal sync my Audio clock was off for about  400Khz.  Instead of 24576 it was running around 24.200 Mhz. This was due to the clock on the ethernet bridge of the BluOs module. I think for ethernet it's another story. I will try to explain later.

About the Muon. I have this Dlink switch with an ultra clock. When I add it in front of my Dac the sound will change in an extreme way. So very clean, clear with so much power and dynamics. It only takes a second to hear the difference, but after 24 to 48 hours the sound will collapse and most probably due to crystal sync. So I think my switch will at least have a similar effect as the Muon and because of the dual powersupply and fuses I have used. I even would think it will outperform the Muon easely just because it sounds so incredibly good that it's hard to think anything else could be better 🙂


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Wijnand
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How sure are you on this point, because it also could be the crystals that are in a different situation. I think a Wifi extender is at least as noisy as a computer or router.

I have used Euphony Stylus on my Pink Faun streamer. This player has a sit and relax mode. Which means after you have started the album you would lose control until the album or playlist is finished. This mode disconnects from the ethernet. Even when I played for day's in this mode through a direct ethernet link, through USB or AES/EBU in all situations I had trouble with dark sound and now it seems crystal sync was the problem. In all situations I made use of the very best power supplies and clocks. In one situation we also tried this with the Metrum Adagio and the Ambre. They went dark in an hour as well.


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Tobias
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They way i work is rather reading what people on the forum conclude, rather then testing everything my self.

If you hear person after person confirming something then i tend to believe that there must be something to it, if it makes sense also. After having watched Hans Beekhuyzens videos, many many times, and discussed his theories it all makes sense when you also see what hundreds of people are reporting on the forums, if you have Hans ideas in the back of your head while reading.

Everything suddenly makes sense if you only focus on noise and realize that the DAC is crazy sensitive to noise.

Obviously a WiFi extender can output a very low noise floor since a lot of people are abandoning expensive switches and other kind of gear and move towards a simpler setup with WiFi extenders. This is something that is very new, basically this year.


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Tobias
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Please check the reviews of the Muon Pro and talk to the Alpha guys about it. In the end of the Hans B video that i linked to he talks about how they tested this together (him and Alpha Audio) and concluded how amazing it is. I am not saying that it can´t be bettered but it does a lot for being a passive filter only, and is proven really hard to better.

Also, think about the new PS Audio Airlens, that apparently is really good. What is Airlens? It is just a gap of air, just like a wifi extender, to break the physical connection. At least that is how i understand it.


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Tobias
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I am with Jaap that additional clocks probably just changes the noise floor. It doesn´t make any sense that their actual function can impact the sound since there is a new Clock in the DAC that actually matters. Jitter don´t travel, from what i understand. It is just something that happens in the clocking part if there is noise involved to get those square waves out of shape. But that doesn´t travel from one clock to the other. It is nullified by the next clock/buffering, from what i understand. The clock theory, when used prior to the DAC, has always been a noise thing but since it is a clock people has always thought that it is about jitter/square waves and timing, that normally is associated with clocking.

That is my amateur summary or what i have managed to conclude  🙂


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